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    Although it goes against what i have already said, i guess one could ‘argue’ that fish don’t really need their biotope to be happy – look at how a lot of breeders spawn discus – in a bare tank with brightish lights and a bright blue background – the fish would breed if they werent ‘happy’ with the arrangements. or are they only breeding because they DONT like the environment they have been put into and they ‘fear’ for the future – so they are trying to boost the population?

    lol, the more i type the more strange contravercial ideas i come up with – BUT either way i still believe the fish would be less stressed and more ‘at home’ whether they are wild caught or not, in a biotope tank. There is something to be said however for the notion that captive bred fish ‘dont know any better’ than a bare tank for example, and therefore they may be happiest in such a tank?!?! ARRGHH too much to think about lol

    By the way, just to bring us kicking and screaming back to where we started – im having to put my plans on hold for my main tank – i have a young pair of discus in there at the moment before they move on to bigger things – trouble is, they have spawned on the outlet pipe for the external filter lol!! i htink i’ll still do my smaller tank though.

    the photo is of the 100litre tank that i was going to setup – as you can see its pretty bare but the sand looks good and the small bits of wood i have there at the moment dont look out of place. It need twigs, a background and floating plants to make it complete – the java moss isnt true to biotope

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    QUOTE (stingrays4 @ Dec 12 2008, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Hi i think biotopes are great, but just how realistic can it be in all honesty? The amazon is a HUGE river with some very diverse area’s,hence why its so popular i guess!! So unless you are lucky enough to do as Heiko bleher and actually visit the area then we can only make educated guess’s?
    Good luck and be great to see some photo’s no matter how poor!

    I agree – The only true way to ever recreate the exact habitat all fish come from is to let mother nature take its course over thousands of years until i have discus swimming around my local river in the UK /biggrin.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:D” border=”0″ alt=”biggrin.gif” /> Heiko actually gave me a few good tips on how to breed the cardinal tetra on another site that i am on, his knowledge is fantastic!

    I have found some great looking bits of wood in my lfs – i think they called it vine wood – picking osme up on friday, its going to look great!!

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    alas i’m not currently trying to spawn them, as things have came up that mean i dont have the time to pay them the attention needed, but when i do again i will record all that i do in a diary thread on here. Im also a member on Simply Discus forums and have had lots of help from Heiko Bleher (very famous in the fish world) on how to spawn them – basically its a case of soft water, i use rain water, very acidic – ph4 plenty of live foods and about 30C temp and darkness. and indeed that always gets tem spawning after a week or so and then they spawn every few days. I just cant get any fertilised eggs at all! ah well. i’ll get back on the case soon!

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    QUOTE (Eyrie @ Dec 7 2008, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Sorry Chris. I’ve tried taking photos but can’t get any that are decent enough to show what the wood is like /biggrin.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:D” border=”0″ alt=”biggrin.gif” /> im pretty sure the wood is the same as what im thikning of – im getting a bit tomorow and im 99% sure its fine.

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    QUOTE (Nev @ Dec 5 2008, 12:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    Hi All,
    I am planning to set up a biotope tank over the next couple of weeks once my current 3ft tank becomes empty and all the inhabitants have moved to a new 4ft tank. The biptope will contain just 1 type of fish and that is my favorite tetra, the Black Phantom. I plan to have about 25 in a setup with river sand and bogwood. I will be looking into getting some branches or twigs, I have been told that Beech wood is safe if stripped of bark and dried and that Beech leaves and Oak leaves are fine also. I have an external Aquis 550 which I will use and will put some peat into one of the trays. Since subdued lighting is recommended I am looking into using black light.
    My tanks are going to be changing a lot over the next couple of weeks but if anyone is interested here are some pics of them as is. http://www.catalystastrology.com/fishtank.html
    Great site really like the in depth knowledgebase of tetras.

    oak leaves do look great – i had a few in my tank along with twigs last year and with subdued lighting, play sand substrate and some other bits of bogwood it looked great – hopefully i want my next setup to be finished by next week – and as it takes a while for oak and beech to properly dry out it looks like ill be usuing the ‘reptile wood’. bit of advice – if you are having leaves, gather and dry out lots – this way when the ones in thank start to rot – which wont be long, you can remove them and be able to replace them quickly. YOu may also want to boil leaves to get rid of any nasty things.

    another thing i found to look good is peat. get some aquarium peat and scatter it on the surface – within a few days it will become water logged and will sink and it does look really natural.


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    a pic would be great. im just about to set up my small 60litre as a blackwater biotope this coming week – i’ll get some photos asap.

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    QUOTE (dunc @ Dec 2 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
    I much prefer true biotope settings.. I really struggle to find decent tree roots for my Amazon setups though /smile.gif” style=”vertical-align:middle” emoid=”:)” border=”0″ alt=”smile.gif” />

    i agree – finding roots is a pain! mostly just seem to find lumps of wood that dont do much for the looks of the setup rather they just end up taking up space and looking un-natural. i think the wood reptile shops sell is ok though, not sure what its called but its basically thinish branches. anyone know if these are tank safe?

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