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torsoParticipantGlaser yes but there are others
torsoParticipanthi
in “Aquaristik-Fachmagazin” of february/march 2010, Jens Kühne writes about betta kuehnei. about betta sp “satun” I resume the content: Satun – village or district – must be wrong. the “origin” was declared by a trader in Bangkok. the author never found b. “satun” or betta kuehnei in this district. there are differences in couloring and body shape, but the hybrids are fertile. he thinks it’s a “populationsvariante”=variation of populations not a species.
comparing the pictures I would tend to “satun”
cheers Charles
torsoParticipantas you can see they have been bred. no problem to buy them in germany/switzerland at a reasonable price.
from aquaristik-im-detail.de
20.02.2010
“Es gibt in der DATZ 4/2002 einen guten Artikel von Jörg Freyhof über Haltung und Zucht deiner Fische. Die Fische sollen recht unproblematisch sein , laut Autor lassen sich die Fische gut in weichem und harten Wasser halten ,nahmen wohl sogar Trockenfutter , die Nachzucht erfolgte in weichem Wasser (dgh1 ,ph7 ,25°C) ,es sind Jungfische im Aufzuchtbecken extensiv groß geworden.
Mathias”
Haltung=keeping
Nachzucht=breeding
I try to get the article if needed.
cheers Charles
torsoParticipantthanks
I’ve seen this species in the gallerie of aqua-global
http://www.aqua-global.de/Bilder/Rhinogobi…candidianus.jpghere the species/male shows red parts
http://images.google.ch/imgres?imgurl=http…%26tbs%3Disch:1
here as well
http://images.google.ch/imgres?imgurl=http…%26tbs%3Disch:1
at fishbase candidianus looks very different. a surprise?
do your males look like this’ and do adult females change?
at first sight no red stripes on the head
with an enlargerged pic yes could be. what surprises me: r candidianus origines from Taiwan and comes in with ps cf cheni
ps: just read they come from china too?
torsoParticipantyes so far
torsoParticipantprotomyzon sp 02
any ideas?
torsoParticipanthi Matt
did I mention that P. Dickmann reported some infos about glaniopsis in general in one of his articles (DATZ 9/98 if I remember right)? he says they go up to more than 1500 m – gastromyzon up to this line – and require more oxygen and lower temperature. when found at lower levels together with gastros always staying in the most turbulent waters.
could be the reason why they are not easy to tansport and to keep
if I find time for a pfd …
cheers Charles
torsoParticipanthi Matt
are you ready for a next picture-load?
I keep bilineata and orthogoniata
torsoParticipanthi Matt
it’s a kind of mistery. when I was preparing the article about borneosuckers I tried to get pictures of glaniopsis and more infos. Graeme and Martin just had these loaches-pictures which unfortunately were not apt for printing. about infos: in 2006 there must have been a shipment to europe as in a forum-talk an aquarist reported a desease in his g. multiradiata. the pictures on loaches have been taken 2006, but Graeme/Martin couldn’t furnish more infos.
would be great to hear more
cheers Charles
torsoParticipantQUOTE (Matt @ Mar 25 2010, 12:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I’m still confused about these G. ocellatus with blue/violet colouration in the caudal – not a feature mentioned by Dr. Tan. *scratches chin*Also is this a juvenile Charles?
P.S. – We could really do with some pics of G. scitulus if anyone has any.
torsoParticipantgentle, not rough. gastromyzon are in a way all peaceful and self-conscious
yes all are right
about ocellatus/farragus. the spots on the head are supposed to be finer in farragus. but I have some ocellatus with fine spotting. if you look at the pictures it’s interesting to see, that the “classic-pattern-type” with clear lateral “eyes” has a coarser spotting on the head. that’s the type in “borneosucker” too.
Jim Powers (ocellatus about 8 years old) remarked a washing out of patterns, making it more difficult to distinguish
torsoParticipantyes a female on the top
every species is a little diffrerent in temperament: stellatus are of the “smooth” kind. the combination with the best fighters – cteneocephalus – gives very inteersting observations. I have kept them with ocellatus – the most “social” species and now seperately. ocellatus and farragus are very similar, females very large. all in all every genus and species is at least slightly different in behaviour. therefore I don’t keep gastromyzon together with p cheni or sewellia.
as I feed not on a special spot I can’t judge. but the large specimen just push away smaller ones on the place they are eating at the moment. good to see when tablets are given. they just hold this place by shere presence. gastromyzon species have no problems to share an offered glass with algae on it. sewellia and others do have this problem. seems that the dominance question is then still virulent.
in nature the constellation is different
torsoParticipantyou are right.
but it’s much easier than that at least with the 7 species I have. females show a “higher/taller” dorsum, they are always larger. and males have that “edge” head-to-pectroral fin, I call it “the-hanger-effect”.
condition is: a size near the SL. but it works with ctenocephalus, farragus, ocellatus, scitulus, stellatus, viriosus, zebrinus
may be it’s easier with some pics
the second picture with cteno shows a pair fighting for dominance. the male is going to loose and is already changing colours back to normal before the end of the fight. females normally are the dominant specimen in adult life.
the ventral sight shows ocellatus.
sorry for the disorder. didn’t find the button for changing places.
torsoParticipantvery good Matt
torsoParticipantsure? as long I can’t read chinese
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